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Nature's Perfect Messengers

• Rebecca Troup • Season 3 • Episode 18

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Ever had a bird swoop down at just the right moment, making you wonder if it was more than just a coincidence? Rebecca and Eileen share personal stories that ask us to see the world through a different lens. In this episode, Eileen recounts her touching encounters with cardinals and how these bright red visitors provide her with a sense of connection to her late mother. We discuss how noticing these seemingly simple signs can uplift our spirits and open us to messages from the beyond.

Imagine driving and suddenly seeing a majestic hawk flying along side you —could it be a sign? Rebecca shares this exhilarating experience, leading us into a story from "Chicken Soup for the Soul: Angels Among Us" about a mysterious man who appears just in time to guide a pelican off a busy highway. These encounters blur the lines between the ordinary and the miraculous, suggesting that perhaps passed loved ones are among us, guiding us in ways we might not always understand.

By opening up to these experiences, we can deepen our belief in the continuity of life and the presence of loved ones who've passed. Whether it's a mysterious light turning on or a feeling of guidance in everyday decisions, we encourage you to embrace these signs with an open heart. So join us, share your stories, and let's find comfort in knowing we are never truly alone.

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Rebecca:

[Transcripts r Welcome to the Mystical Truths Podcast. This is Rebecca and I'm really glad you're here. Let's unlock your world. I've invited Eileen, who is a dear friend and a very artistic, creative soul, to share with us her experiences and even questions about how birds and other creatures are messengers of guidance and reassurance from non-physical. So welcome, Eileen, than yo, I'm happy to have you here. I think this will be a fun talk.

Eileen:

Rebecca Rebecca, you.

Rebecca:

Rebecca, it's good to be here, so tell us about your bird experiences. You mentioned to me that you've had some experiences with certain birds that you feel are messengers from the other side or information about those who have passed. So go ahead, tell us what your experiences are.

Eileen:

I lost my mom in January and I found this year, when I'm sitting out on the porch, especially Y k my sister on the phone, all of a sudden there'd be these Cardinals which I've heard lots of people talk about Cardinals and everything and one got physically on the porch and started squawking at me as we're talking about my mom and I'm like, hi, mom, l k o to join us. So I feel like, well, you know, good of you to join us. So I feel like somebody's there, somebody's there. And my dear friend lost her husband last year and he was into birds, had one w of i those bird feeders that had the camera on it, ther' three she's also noticed a lot of cardinals. So we started talking and wondering about you know how this happens, why this happens? So I thought it'd be fun to talk about.

Rebecca:

Yeah, because it makes us wonder, like, is that e what's hey're happening? Is that for real, right? You know, I have a woman who every time she comes to see me here at my office, well, let me say first, the first time she came was because her father had just passed and this bird flew right behind me, behind my window, and then one like kind of came and bumped the door while we're talking about her dad and to her dad. And so every time she comes there's some kind of bird experience like that. And the first time she was here I walked out the back door, which is my office is at the back door, and there's three steps going down to the ground, and on the second step there was a feather, and this was about an hour after she left, and that was the door that a bird had, like, banged on. And so it's easy for us to say, well, that's kind of cute and maybe, maybe that was her dad or maybe that was your mom, you know the cardinal. But it sort of leaves us with but is it Like, how does that actually happen, right?

Rebecca:

And what those in nonphysical tell us not that birds, especially, they're influencing all kinds of stuff in our world to guide us and to sort of give us hints that they're there, those little nudges.

Rebecca:

Little nudges, they're very subtle, usually Not always, but usually.

Rebecca:

And they say birds are just really receptive, sort of like insects, but birds are a little bigger, easier for us to notice.

Rebecca:

We're usually not trying to shoo them away like we do insects, but I've had the insect experiences too and definitely the birds and all that.

Rebecca:

I j o that they're very receptive to O the e're that's coming from the other side, in other words the waves of thought, and they're very plentiful i there's it's a lot of them, they're quickly ready, they're very mobile and it's just easy to blend w with w them d So they say what happens is our loved ones or any hen of our souls that guide us I don't like to call them project their attention or an impulse in the direction of, say, a bird or other creatures, and then they and that bird or creature focus their attention on you. So it's not like they're becoming the bird or the rabbit or whatever is being utilized in the moment. They're influencing and they're sort of blending their focus with that animal for the reason of letting us know that they're there, and I think it's oftentimes more than one of them anyway, like more than one soul we tend to think that it's just one, like when we get a message or we get a sign.

Rebecca:

Y k t. p It's s often hey're a group efforting Okay, we're so well tended to that there are all types of souls paying attention and guiding, and so it's. E.[Eileen y. k I know that they really enjoy it when we do, not disappointed. When we don't, they get it. t fun when we do and you can imagine why it would be.

Rebecca:

You know they're putting some l they're not effort, there's no effort on their end but they're putting that thought there, they're joining with you and it's nice. Yeah, you know they're putting some they're not effort, there's no effort on their end but they're putting that thought there, they're joining with you and it's nice when you get it and you recognize it, even if it feels silly to say hey, mom, you know, yeah, I know you're not that bird, but I'm thinking about you.

Eileen:

y, k but ecause say it like, why not?

Rebecca:

you know because when we're open to it and we're attentive to it, we're going to y . 0[Eileen. As[ more. Okay, it's not that it's happening more, it's that we will recognize er more. We'll finally see it when we weren't seeing it before. Okay, which is fun.

Eileen:

And like i those quiet times, I bet, yeah, when like, are sitting outside, yeah, yeah, I, as I'm sharing this with other people also, a friend told me her husband passed, her son got married. It was outside and her husband was a tall six foot man and she said, there in the tree was the tiniest little bird that sat through the whole wedding ceremony chirping and she's like big guy, little bird. I thought it was really neat, but she really believed that he was also there and I do too.

Rebecca:

Yeah, it's. It gets to really be fun because, like I, have hawk experiences.

Rebecca:

L hey're them for a long time and they're so unique and just in the moment that you can't deny that they're influenced by the other side. And my family even thought I was a little loony because I was having them, A it was just me, by myself. And a then when they started recognizing that this was happening sometimes when they were with me now, now a wasn't so loony, right, not that they really thought it was loony, but it's hard to believe something you don't experience and because l I kept saying like these are so unique, and there was even I'll just share a couple of them there r one that flew right beside my car for a very long while, like on the driver's side, and it was hard, like I was trying to pay attention to the bird but drive at the same time and I'm laughing and having fun and thinking this is just like so fun, like that's all it is.

Rebecca:

Like they're not i l really a point necessarily, it's just because it's fun. There was one time I was driving the car with someone and I said I really feel like u good is t to happen, like really exciting. And I was driving, I went to the atm machine and then came out and I was m waiting at a traffic light a to he make a left and I made l What across this big intersection and just Like, this " hawk came flying down right in front of my windshield and like sort of spun and did this belly up kind of thing. And if, if my windshield wasn't there I read I could have reached out and touched it.

Rebecca:

"We're could see it's like real soft, fuzzy, white fur on its belly and it just did this weird flip and then up and away and it went and sat on the um traffic light thing because, like I'm watching it in my rearview mirrors, I'm going down the road and it was turned my way just watching me go down the road and the person I was with said, like what was that? That never happens? Like what? And I said that was the exciting thing. That was what I was feeling a little while ago. That is so fun and it it really. It's just for the fun of it, but it's also for the recognition that we're paying attention, we're playing this game with you.

Rebecca:

S t s i a a t w he alone, and I think that's the real honey in it. You know when your I mother can show up to say I'm still here and you're not alone, right? You know? And there's so many stories. You a he's and books written. You know about different stories that people share, and there's one I was just reading in Chicken Soup for the Soul, the Angels Among Us edition. I was reading this story and I'm not big on the word angels either, just because there are so many different thoughts about that, and I agree with the woman that shared the story. Her little daughter said their angels are just like us and I agree.

Rebecca:

Suddenly, this story is about and this woman the title is Daniel and the Pelican says, and this woman was driving home from work. , a six lane highway, three lanes in each direction, and cars are screeching on brakes, parting in the middle of the lanes and she's wondering what's going on. There's this huge pelican smoky on the road and not bothered by anybody, not bothered by Y the k screeching he tires, thing, in any hurry to leave, just hanging out on the road. And so she managed to pull over and o h s through is traffic to try to shoo t this bird shirt, to the lake that was just off the road and he didn't want to go. But she was able to shoo him and finally get him reluctantly to go down the hill into the water. And she said I just made it back to my car when I turned and looked that he was back on the road again. So back, she goes through traffic and she's shooing him. Two more times. She did it so four times altogether. And so now she said, she said her and the pelican are on the curb and she's just at her wit's end. You know she's praying for something, like something has to happen, like I can't keep doing this. And the penguin was just preening its feathers, just not worried about anything, not really caring. So she said there we stood, I'm reading the book now. There we stood on the curb like a couple of folks waiting for a bus.

Rebecca:

Suddenly a shiny red pickup truck pulls up and a man hops out. He says would you like A a h hand s And she says I'm seldom at a loss for words, but one look said, this very tall newcomer rendered me A h s to do anything but nod. He was the said, striking man I'd ever seen Smoky black s hair, muscular with tan skin, tender smile, dimples. You know the whole thing hypnotic, crystal clear, caribbean blue eyes. She said he was almost too beautiful to be real. She noticed on his shirt. His name was embroidered on the work shirt it said Daniel.

Rebecca:

And he said I'm on my way to the seabird sanctuary. I'd be glad to take him. And he said I have a big cage in the back of my truck. And she said oh, that would be wonderful. And she said do you volunteer at the sanctuary? And he said every now and then. And she said in my wildest dreams said, Have have imagined a more perfect solution to said, my No dilemma.

Rebecca:

The bird was going to be saved by a knowledgeable his/her with movie star him/her, who just happened to have a pelican sized cage in the back of a his truck and he was on his way to I the w sanctuary j So she says, as I watched Daniel prepare for his passenger, I couldn't shake the feeling that I knew said, him It from somewhere. And she Michelle said have we thought, met before? And he said no, I don't think so. As he smiled at I and she says I held my breath as the man crept toward the pelican. Their eyes met.

Rebecca:

S s s hat Daniel to drape a towel over his face and place him in the cage. There was no struggle, no her, flapping Mommy of the wings and no protest from t the h bird y k h. o t w. y The k whole h thing t h y. k And h so o, you know, excited and thanking him. And Oh said it was my pleasure, michelle. And she thought wait a s minute Well wait a minute, how did he know my name? She said, W only ow knew his name because I saw s on , shirt. We never spoke of names. And so she said she's A, s but s she t about point, t I t h I day. And she said she called attention, the sanctuary later to check on the pelican and asked if she could speak with Daniel. And no one there had ever heard of him, wow.

Rebecca:

So said, said that evening they're talking about it, her husband and her child, during dinner. s And her little girl said to her .... , I bet he's your angel, that's how you know him, or that's why you know him, that's how you know him, or that's why you know him. And she said oh, but t Daniel didn't have any wings, honey. And the girl So, says well, a lot of angels don't have wings. And her mother said well, how do you know this? And she said well, I see them. They're just ethers? a you w and c me and daddy. And she said, at this point I put down my fork and gave her my full attention.

Rebecca:

it w said o Julie o t o It think the people you see are angels? And her daughter said because God is in their faces. And I thought that is so true. Those on the other side can influence people too. I'm sure they can appear in human form well enough that we can see them. I'm sure they can pull the truck out of the ether, however that works. So was that a real person that was influenced by the other side to help in that situation, or did they take human form and pull the truck out of the ethers and who cares?

Eileen:

M i n e the aybe other it was something.

Rebecca:

Maybe it's not either, maybe it's not even either of those, maybe it's something drop totally, but a know for sure because there are so many experiences like like this that are happening and have been happening forever. It's just people A more apt to talk about them now that it reminded a of years ago because, again, it's a story that helps, but it doesn't really get your belief in place until you've had an experience yourself and I've had several over the years. But this is one a that e really stands out for me this was years ago, my kids Hi very young stands out for me. This was years ago, my kids were very young, my husband was laid off hat it was it was like sort of an ongoing thing. So we're getting frustrated with it and concerned, and I was just really feeling down and I'm walking toward the unemployment office to drop off his claim.

Rebecca:

This was back when it was a paper and an envelope and you had to jump it off, and I had both kids with me, one in each hand, and I'm just, you know, sort of a moping t down the sidewalk. And I got to something, the sidewalk entrance of the unemployment office and there was this man who looked like a homeless man. I don't know where he came from, he might've been walking and I didn't i l, but he was just right there in front of me and he looked at me and he said something along the lines of hi, I hope you're having a nice day, or something. I don't remember[EileenWow!. a It.[[[Eileen ..[ Wow Wow the words, because it was the sensation. That was y incredible ow

Rebecca:

I remember looking at his hand and his fingers were and, his fingernails were dirty and there was no judgment. There was something calming, something radiating, that completely changed my I, d completely T w disposition, and it happened very quickly. So he said something I look at him. I just happened to look at his hand. I said thank you, or I hope you do too, or something like that, because the whole thing is like it was just overwhelming. And so I took a few steps toward the door to the unemployment office and I'm trying to figure out what just happened. And I turned around and I couldn't see him. Wow, and it was open sidewalks, there was nowhere for him to go. And I thought, you know, I just had to stand there for a minute because I thought what I know, what just happened, I know exactly what just happened, but the fact that it happened in my life right now is something I'll never forget.

Rebecca:

And so I dropped the y k and walked back say, Well literally floated back to my car, y I k think, with the kids, and be, didn't change my whole world. It didn't. There wasn't a. My husband didn't get called back to work the y next day. Things did get better. But it was confirmation for me that we were being paid attention to, that we were not alone and that the shit's real. Yeah BE that's really real.

Rebecca:

And so I think that you know some people was, might say of, well y k never happens for me, you know, and my suggestion there would be think about it a little bit once in a while, then wonder if it's . for you, because you you can't invite it A in s and say m it doesn't happen to you at the same time, because we can never be in the problem and have a solution. They just don't be in m the same space. Just like the woman in the story I just read, she was asking for a solution, a miracle, something like there has to be something, because I can't do this anymore. It's not working the way I'm doing it. So she asked for a solution. She didn't stand there and think this is terrible. It's never ending. This. This is not going to work. One of us is going to get killed, she said.

Rebecca:

[Rebecca.... eNowI"lling elling . I'm . Now Now even thought later that evening other when she was sort of you know, just reflecting, she thought, you know, I didn't even realize until now that that was three lanes of traffic I was navigating through four different times I could have been hit by a car. And so I mean, I'll always say that if it's not your day to die, you're not going anywhere. If it's your day for an accident, you might maybe have an accident. So not only was it not her day to have either one of those, it was her day to have an experience with the other side. And here's another reason why they do this. It was for her, but then she told the story.

Eileen:

Now efinitely a S B, t other h people a he story, it just ripples out well, y k up to her daughter too, and t daughter felt more comfortable and we always say a are more intuitive and receptive to that stuff.

Rebecca:

I definitely are Sure Because they haven't, and she even mentions that in the story that you know. She said it made her realize that things that d had heard before about kids are more open and more intuitive and more available to. This is true because they have not been conditioned out t of it. You know, when saying we y were k\ , my, my brother she's had two imaginary friends. Right, , called e them his knows imaginary friends, which I'm glad b they f did that. That was better than saying you're crazy or you're, you're just making that up. . . Ia w he played with Alice symbol Palace. Those were his imaginary friends a a and i I o don't remember a whole lot about it he's five years younger than I am. I just o remember that he used to play with i his s imaginary i s f t o s thought, oh, that's cute. form, know he's playing with his imaginary friends. Now it would have been even nicer maybe because we're talking about this more and more now, more people understand it would have been nicer if they would have known who he was actually talking to. Right, those weren't imaginary friends.

Rebecca:

B with the other side. I think we all do when we're born, and I think we all do for quite a while, but it doesn't take long for us to get distracted by the external environment and then overhear things. Even I think with with this woman's daughter saying you know that was your angel. She's probably picked that verbiage up somewhere, because even she knew they don't have wings, because of course they can project the image of wings if they want to, if it helps us understand and in a way that it's a symbol for non-physical. So if you see an image of a statue of a person, well, that's a person, but if we put wings on it, oh, that's not a person anymore, it's somebody, it's something from the other side, it's a non-physical in physical form so it's a way for us to differentiate, I guess.

Rebecca:

But we have. There are many, many different. attention, There are a lot of birds flying I'ma sign signed

Rebecca:

Not all of them are y trying k get our attention not all of s them . saying I'm assigned w from t i side that o i o just s t said we, they're doing their thing severalminutes minutes they're following their impulses and sometimes that impulse says go look at eileen. Like Oh another story in the book . a woman who No woke her daughter up. Her daughter s the daughterreplied, t e that adult Well, this Mom like 10 years old, so I'm sure she's even more of an adult now b But she woke her daughter up really really early way, earlier than she normally would have been getting up. And she o said r come here, look at this dove. There's this beautiful dove that has been sitting in this , , dove, cooing forever, like for minutes upon minutes. And she said it's just sitting there looking at me.

Rebecca:

she so the daughter, you know, goes into the room and she looks and she said well, said, Well, that is interesting. And she said we just stood there for minutes just watching each other, and then it flew away and the daughter . O something ma had. ad, that was interesting. And her mother said, no, that was a sign. And she said that a dove's. She'd been readmitted to the hospital a few days prior and was having some health conditions or whatever. So I don't think they really knew whether she was going to pass or not. But that dove to the mother.

Rebecca:

Y k a her sign that this dove is here because Oma has just passed. And the daughter said well, I don't think so, but whatever, I'm I have, to bed. She room, said I no sooner got to u my bedroom and the phone rang oh, my head just passed. l So o these i are l true stories in this a, like I said, there are a lot of stories, and if any of you out there want to come on the podcast and share your stories, I'm more than open to that. And if any of you out there want to come on the podcast and share your stories, I'm more than open to that, because I think the more we talk about it, the more we'll expect it and then the more we'll recognize them when they happen.

Rebecca:

You know and I was thinking about the symbology of birds and I didn't look it up because I just wanted to get my own fresh perspective on it I have in my dining room a bird feeder that suctions under the window, a e one l he it t has h light on it like a solar light, and I feed the birds t and the squirrels. I put some on the window doves and all that. So I'm always watching the birds and the squirrels and they have f so f fun. So I'm thinking about the bird feeder and how the birds are free to come and go as they please. There are a lot of them.

Rebecca:

There are a lot of different types of birds, a lot of variety, and they just sort of come and go, just like the d souls on the other side come and go. They're always here with us, they're always flitting around and even, like the doves that I have, come to my window. f I think they're just so funny because they're doves, are kind of big[Eileen-It. It It these are morning does and they they're very flappy, like they flop, b flop, flop, flop,

Rebecca:

But another thing they do " they'll sit on the window ledge and they'll duck down to where I can't see them and then they duck up again. They come up and then they'll watch me and they duck down and then they pop their heads up again and they watch me and it's just so fun to have fun with all these different types of birds that come. It is, but it does remind me of the other side and how they're watching birds. They're playing games. They'll duck and then they'll watch their what and then they come and go. They're aware of us. We can't get too close, or they sort of seem to fly away. In other words, you know we get these subtle signs and messages and things like that, bits of information from the other side, but we can't grab onto them and hold them. We can't call them in. I can't sit in my dining room and say, okay, birds, come on right now I want to see three of you right now I could, and that may happen, but not when I'm demanding it.

Rebecca:

If I'm daydreaming about it, I would love to see some birds right now. There will be birds that come. So the more ease we put into life in general, the more available we are to the guidance that is around us all of the time, not just in birds say, and You animals, but in other people n You know, the other side tells us looking...., we are often the bird that is delivering a message to somebody else without O realizing hey're we're doing it, somebody else without realizing that we're doing it. You know, there are times where you just have an impulse to say something to somebody and you may never know that that really helped , , in that moment. Right, or you may just have J hank to smile at someone. You know, it's funny.

Rebecca:

Kids are awesome because I don't know what's up this year. But or whatever j this Just year I've been to two different amusement parks and each time I've had a young girl not the same girl, obviously, R are Y two k totally k t. he A young girl stop and look at me and say you are so n. e I'm j not l thinking I'm hot, it's like hey're I'm not looking, it's just. It's so funny because I can tell they're not looking at me. Now, Okay, they're looking at my inner being. They're looking at, they're seeing something that I think all kids see. It's just I'm probably more open to them actually saying it to me, because I know what they're saying and both times I just looked back and w said thank you Just thank you so much for that.

Rebecca:

I didn't feel like any had k y k you are too. Or just just be in that moment and appreciate the moment and let it be whatever it is, but take the honey from it Right? You know, know that the other side is speaking through children, adults, birds, squirrels, experiences, not even just like they're speaking through billboards. They're speaking through license plates. They're speaking through all kinds of things all day long, every day. Now we don't have to constantly be looking for those and trying to connect the dots. We'll make ourselves crazy by doing that. Just be aware and be willing to say, well, that that was interesting. Like the next time any of you out there say, well, that was a coincidence, stop for a minute and ask yourself uh-huh, was it?

Eileen:

because there really aren't any I know you know.

Rebecca:

So, thing to think about birds is they have a bird's eye view they can see a broad view or the bigger picture than we can.

Rebecca:

So that's another symbol for a bird, because non-physical obviously has a bird's eye view, bigger than a y. k You know, they can see what our intentions are, what other people's intentions are, what our desires are, where everybody's at Source is constantly synchronizing all of us, everything, not making. We're free, we're. We're doing this of our own free will, we're choosing as we go and all that. But they are guiding us and influencing us because they have that broader vision. So the next time any of you out there think something like, um, something simple, like, what store should I go to? I want some groceries. There are three grocery stores within pretty easy reach for me. So instead of this is what I teach in intuition development instead of thinking, well, this one has double coupons, that one usually has better sales, this one, instead of getting your mind involved in it, get your feeling sense involved in it and just feel like I don't know which one, which one am I, which one am I really feeling? Instead of getting your mind involved in it, get your feeling sense involved in it and just feel like I don't know which one am I really feeling right now, if I just put all three of them energetically in front of me. Which one am I gravitating to? It'll be subtle, but pay attention to it and just go. Don't look for the burning bush. Don't think, oh, I'm going to Giant Eagle. I don't know if anybody else has Giant Eagles, but we do here. I'm going to Giant Eagle because I'm averting an accident if I go somewhere else, or because I'm going to meet the man of my dreams. It's not maybe, but just go. Go and follow the impulses, because it'll work out better for you. It'll be a good experience for you because they know for you right now, with what you're looking for, which one would be the better experience for you.

Rebecca:

So if you can start with little things like that, it's easier when you ask the bigger And questions, you know. And if you want to sign, ask for it, but then expect it to come, because if we you don't really expect it, you won't see it. Or if you expect it to be y one k type of "Let's, bring me a red cardinal right now, mom, to show me that you are listening and you're paying attention. That may work out, but most often it won't, because you're trying to make something happen and you're only allowing one possibility for your mother to give you a sign that she's there. Why not say a cardinal would be great, because I associate cardinals with you. But hey, I'm up for anything.

Rebecca:

Find a creative way, mom, today, to just let me know that o paying attention they, and hospice, , you pay attention so that you don't miss it, because it'll happen, but oftentimes an hour later we o forgot t u even asked and o it came and we didn't A connect w the y dots w t t g w, a you n know t h, m let's o be t really h playful r about t, o make d it so I can't miss it. I don't know what it is, but make it so I can't miss it. You know me well enough. So two things are happening when you say that. One, you're inviting that experience in in a nice, curious, playful way, which is magical, and you're reminding yourself that this is possible. And so when the birds show up or the whatever sign it is for anybody out there, appreciate it and expect more well, I wanted to interject.

Eileen:

My mom went into hospice for a couple days right before the end, okay, and they the hospice started out as a house and then they connected it through like a glass walkway and now they have more of the um hospital rooms y okay k type of deal. And y k walk through this glass walkway and now they have more of the hospital rooms, type of deal. And when you walk through this glass walkway, it had a ledge on the top and it was just full of ceramic birds that people had.

Eileen:

So it's, it is I a s definite y thing k you know and then the one nurse goes well, if you see something that hits you, take it home with you. So I mean they're all there too. She was really in tune to you, know them passing and feeling, you know loved ones around and everything. So it was a very nice Y experience k at hings the end too.

Rebecca:

That is nice and I'm sure you know I've talked with some people , work in hospice over the years and I've heard stories of others. I think there's even a TikTok hospice nurse I can't remember her name, but she shares stories like this where you know they do have experiences that they just can't deny around people who are dying. You know things that they tell them, things that they see, things that they see, and so anybody that's having a little bit of a hard time, or maybe a very hard time, believing any of this, do your Google searches, do your TikTok searches, you know, look for the experiences that other people are having, Because in that you're not really going to totally convince yourself, but you will open yourself up to the experiential learning and belief that then will pretty much lock it in for you, Because there's nothing like having the experience yourself.

Rebecca:

me did that really happen?

Rebecca:

Or I can understand that say to me did that really happen? Or I can understand that really. You know, like one woman said that her husband had passed and she laid down to take a little nap and she said, just as I was like maybe drifting to sleep, she said he was right there in front of me, right in front of me, like radiating in front of me, just hovering, and she said he looked amazing. And she said and then he was gone. And she said to me, did that really happen? And I said to her you had the experience, did you not? And she said yeah, and I said well, then it happened. But do you see how fast we are to think did that really happen? Am?

Eileen:

I crazy.

Rebecca:

Is that my imagination? w And that's what the woman in the Pelican story said. She was, you know. After that experience. She said I was wondering if I was just maybe losing my mind. We're so quick to doubt we are and talk ourselves out of things.

Eileen:

Yeah, y k and talk ourselves out of things.

Rebecca:

A, you know, there's a woman that I was talking with years ago and her husband was passed and he had brought some information through for her and it was all great and everything.

Rebecca:

And I ran into her w a month later no, actually it had to be longer than that, because it took her a month to really realize this. She said that the day we talked that evening she walked into her dining room and the light was on in her china closet and she thought, well, I didn't turn that on and she went to unplug it and it wasn't plugged in and she said the light eventually went off and she just thought that was really strange and she said it took me almost a month before it hit me that that was my husband. And I said, of course it was. It was the same day we talked and the light was on and she said, yeah, but like it didn't, it didn't hit me until like almost a month later and I finally realized that was him, it had to be him, and so it just goes to show you how we can be people can be so not even thinking about it, like not connecting the dots at all, even though we had just talked about him that day.

Eileen:

Because we are so busy where our minds are going all the time and when Eileen-. Eileen. [ passes, b b b t on.

Rebecca:

Yeah, and he had been passed for a while passed[Eileen. A . passed..

Rebecca:

. so this was not new. Oh, okay, yeah, but but but too, and you are right, that's, that's always there. But I think that people are just so used to maybe this not being a thing that they don't see y the k dots to connect. You know

Rebecca:

, and one of the things that he had said to her the first day we talked was that she was holding on to everything that he had and he said let it go.

Rebecca:

[Rebecca-have. have said I've[Eileen-No kept everything the same since he passed a lot of people do let it go. And so I think that talk with her, and then the light, and then the realization a month later. Finally, there's no hurry here, we're eternal. We are eternal, so we have plenty of time. There's no hurry.

Rebecca:

So even a month later, y k just setting in, just all setting in until it could get her to a place where she could really recognize that he was really still alive and that it is okay for her to go on, you know, and let stuff go. So it's always fun to talk about the other side and making it more real for us. I don't think we have to be trying to. Even as much as I talk to people and I research and I have my own experiences I'm not constantly trying to be on the other side. I we came here to live this life. We should be focused here and having this life.

Rebecca:

But it's nice when we blend, when we recognize that we're co-creating here, we have free will, we're calling the shots. Life isn't happening to us, it's happening right along with us and we're never alone. In that there's a bird's eye view that can be very beneficial and can even just pop in and say hi, or how about if I just fly beside you for a while? Won't that be fun, right? Stuff like that, right? Well, thank you, eileen, do you?

Eileen:

have any questions? No, this is great. Yeah, I hope we help some n other people. ..

Rebecca:

Me too. I think that you know, like I said, the more we have fun with this, the easier it's going to get for everybody.

Eileen:

Feel comfortable sharing is what I say. Yeah, talk to people about it. You'd be surprised. Everybody has a story.

Rebecca:

That's true. There are a lot of people with stories that aren't being told necessarily. So, yeah, let's all get it out there Share. So for all of you out there, Eileen and I both wish you all the best. You can find me at mysticaltruthscom.