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Spiritual Insights into Ending One's Own Life

• Rebecca Troup • Season 4 • Episode 1

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We explore the emotional and spiritual complexities of ending one's own life, emphasizing compassion and understanding over judgment. This episode discusses free will, societal influences, and the importance of unconditional love.

• Amanda shares her questions after communicating with a friend whose aunt ended her own life
• Discussion on the overwhelming feelings leading to such an event
• Exploration of the misconceptions surrounding religious beliefs about death 
• Emphasis on what this type of death means to the soul
• Consideration of life and choices before and after a an unaliving
• Highlighting the potential for healing through discussions 

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Rebecca:

Transcript is AI generated. Welcome to the Mystical Truths Podcast. This is Rebecca and I'm really glad you're here. Let's unlock your world.

Rebecca:

Well, it's been a while it's been a few months since I had a podcast episode go out. It's been a busy holiday season. But I'm back and I have brought Amanda with me today. She has some questions and some comments about taking one's own life. So, Amanda, welcome.

Amanda:

Thank you.

Rebecca:

I'm glad you're here, and you said to me and I'm glad that it's been a little while, because now you can really refresh my memory about the situation that we had talked about before, where you were helping a friend connect with his aunt.

Amanda:

So I was communicating for him and I had known he had an aunt that had taken her own life, but I didn't know what her name was and how she had done so, so I was communicating and when I communicate I feel a lot and feel and taste and smell.

Amanda:

So I felt immediately like my head was everywhere and it was quick. I'd never experienced that, still being new at this, you know and he that she had taken his her own life and it was by a gunshot to the head. So that explained that feeling to me. And then that brought up the questions that I emailed you, because I was brought up catholic and you're told that taking your own life you're gonna end up in a bad place. You shouldn't do that. It's, or it makes you seem like you're a weak person. So those are just a couple of my questions and I know that you probably can give us some direction and some help on that.

Rebecca:

I appreciate that. Well, you know. First, I want to say that you know Amanda. When she says she's communicating, she is receiving information from the other side and was sharing it with her friend. She is receiving information from the other side and was sharing it with her friend.

Rebecca:

So I love how you allowed the information to just be what it was. You didn't try to change it, you didn't try to decide what you were getting. You just clearly said I feel like my head is everywhere, which is an odd statement, because that really doesn't mean anything to us normally. Like how can our head be everywhere? It just doesn't make any sense. But as soon as you said that, just as you received it which is what I always encourage people to do don't decide anything about it or change it, keep it exactly the way you're getting it it made sense to him immediately that she took her own life by gunshot to the head. To me, that was always my proof that I have to be doing this accurately. Where would we come up with something like that? You know, there are so many ways that people take their own lives and of course that's one of them, but there are many ways, and so that wouldn't make sense for a lot of the other ways that people take their lives. So that's why you always want to stick with exactly what you get.

Rebecca:

As far as your questions, I think, first, it's important to consider that we have free will, completely we have free will, and that means that we do have the right and the ability to end this life experience if we choose to. We're that free. It's not necessarily recommended, not because there's anything wrong with it, but the other side tells us, because we had a plan when we came here. We had some things that we wanted to expand about and accomplish, so to speak, while we were here. That's the whole point. We're creators that come here to create and to make eternity eternal, to always have new desires, always have new things and more and more and more.

Rebecca:

But this is a world of contrast and a lot of variety, especially these days. There's just a lot going on. There's a lot of opinions and people are spouting their opinions and wanting everybody else to follow what they think their opinions are, because everybody's right, you know, everybody's right in their own mind, and so with so much going on, it can be overwhelming. The conditionings that we get as we grow up, the confusion of things, it can be a lot, and I think anybody today can say that, but for some people it's just a lot. Over time, over time, over time, over time, things just build.

Rebecca:

I really don't think that people decide to take their own life just all of a sudden. I think it's something that just sort of creeps in there that just becomes a thing more and more and more over time. Can you imagine how overwhelmed and powerless a person would have to be to do that? Because at that point you're not really even thinking about other people so much. At least it doesn't become the more important thing. The more important thing becomes I'm done, or I've got to escape, or I just can't do this anymore. Everything else, as far as the mess I'll leave, the people that will be sad by this or traumatized by it or whatever, all of that is just not really calculated. I don't think very much at that point, because there's so much stuff that's overpowering that that has just become over time bigger than that. So I think we should have compassion and understand.

Rebecca:

We've all been extremely overwhelmed and probably everybody, I know I have, there have been times in my life where I just thought I want to be done, I want out, I don't want to do this anymore, I don't want to be on this planet, I don't want to be in a body. I's stupid, it's hard, I'm done with it. But we have an instinct to survive and that's the thing that most people can kick in and we go to sleep eventually and that's like hitting a reset button. So that works for a long time. But for some people they're just really done and I think if we get easier about this whole thing, it may be at some point it won't be so traumatic.

Rebecca:

We tell people that you can't have assisted death. Even when somebody is definitely already dying, we can't help them get there faster. In most cases it's becoming a little more a thing. So we have this big hang-up about death when they tell us it's like just leaving a smoky, stuffy room that you're tired of being in and going into a nice fresh air space. Except it's a lot better than that. So it's a wonderful thing, it's something we all want inside. Our inner being doesn't want to stay here forever. We can go whenever we want.

Rebecca:

But, like I was going to say, the other side tells us that it's really a matter of, but you've come this far, you know, you set this whole thing up for yourself, you came in, you knew that. I think that you know some souls know that that might be a potential that this could get rough enough for me that I might check out early. We may know that that's a possibility in a hard life that we choose. But we still want to come in here and have at it, we still want to go for it. And so anybody that has said to me over the years I just I'm done, I want to check out, I want to take my own life.

Rebecca:

My answer to that is go ahead, you're free enough to do that. There's no spiritual law against that. You're not in any kind of trouble because it's seen through love from the other side why, it's understood why we get to that. But maybe, you could stick it out, instead of going and getting a whole new body and coming back in because we do want to do this thing, we will come back and re-approach it from a different angle or from a new perspective, a new body. As a soul, we don't give up on the things that we want to expand to. So if you've come this far into it, why check out now?

Rebecca:

Maybe there are ways to change what's going on here. And, if somebody is, if they have a little bit in them that can go there, they'll go there, they will stay and they'll be open to even little increments of ways where things can get a little better and a little better and a little better. But if they just don't have that, then they just don't. Then they can take their life. And they tell us on the other side when we do that, we generally, withdraw from the physical focus and think to ourselves, I could have stuck that out, oh, I could have stuck that out. But it's okay. We're more disappointed in ourselves than anybody else is or than anything else is. So it's well understood from the other side how we get to that point. And it is okay if we choose to, even in a traumatic way like that, where it could be very difficult for the people

Rebecca:

still here, we still, you know it's all right. We're not in trouble for anything that we do here. But as a soul we want to expand past all of that. Of course we don't want to hurt other people. We want to be able to come in here and make it through life without too much damage along the way. We know this is a big messy place. We know there's going to be stuff. Every single one of us has hurt somebody else, whether we meant to or not, and so we can let ourselves off the hook. I think many people are much too hard on themselves and that's why I'm saying over time, I think it just happens where people get to that place.

Amanda:

But what was interesting was she wasn't sorry that she ended it like that. But she was not even like sorry, she just felt bad that she left so much chaos for everybody around. But then she had said something that was interesting, that was for you and me as well, meaning for him and the family around him and her as well. Like you had said about it was known that it's something that could have happened, and the only thing I know was she owned a restaurant, so that's stressful, so she probably put on a lot of stress and she said that it was more than she thought she could, you know, "I didn't think I could handle it Now that I went through everything I knew I could have. I should have just pushed and I didn't.

Rebecca:

I'm glad that she communicated that through you to him because, again, that is, like you said, important for you to hear and important for him and his family to hear that they're not sorry for it. There's nothing to be sorry for, it's the stuff of life. You know, it's how we roll sometimes, but there still is that sense of I did hurt some people and I did give up, I bailed. B ut, when they say that, there's no, I don't believe there's any downer energy to that. I think it's just fact. I think it's taking responsibility, it's taking sort of ownership or whatever for, yeah, that's a thing. Like I made those choices. I thought life got too big for me. It didn't, but I thought it did. I thought I was powerless.

Rebecca:

There are many times where people, for even financial reasons maybe where they feel like they're just under a current they can't get out of, they're in massive debt or they're overwhelmed over many things and they just feel like the only way out is to check out. And that's why one of the things I just love to teach is there are always solutions, always to everything. I mean, that is just a basic part of life, that when we see something here that sparks a desire in us, there are always multiple solutions to that or ways to that desire. But if we have been convinced, or convinced ourselves, that that's not true, then we can't see them. So this happens in little ways with people and in big ways with people.

Rebecca:

If you just get to where you think my life is so bad or my options are zero, except for that one, which is to check out. If that's the only one they can see that makes any sense or that just seems real to them, then they take it. But there are always, always, always other options, just like you said to me earlier when we did the test run. You said that just from listening to this podcast, you've noticed changes and that you had an experience recently where you just stepped in some dog poop and it could have set your day completely in a poor direction. But because of just the understandings that you're coming to and have come to, you didn't let that happen.

Amanda:

I cleaned it up and I went on with my day. It was Friday, it snowed a little but it was nice, you know. So, yeah, I didn't let that over. You know I could have went. Oh, this is going to be horrible, I don't, you know I'm rushing around, whatever, but no. Rebecca: Yep, there's another sign that I'm screwed.

Rebecca:

There's another sign that my life sucks. You know, people do it all day long, every day, and so you can see how little things like that can start to add up Right.

Rebecca:

So now you really feel like, oh, this is just crap, literally crap. And then it's like a domino effect, either direction you go with it. If you want to go in the yeah, well, this is okay, I can clean this up, not a big deal. This has no power over my beautiful day, that will domino. But you can very easily say, well, yep, that's a sign that my life is crap and I'm sick of this.

Rebecca:

And then there goes the domino effect that way, and when we do that over and over and over and over, it gets bigger and it seems more overwhelming. And then it's 10 more things and five more things and it just seems to be more than we can handle. More than we can handle, which it's nice when people can catch it before it goes too far and reach out for help or some kind of guidance. But I've heard many people say over the years that we had no idea this person was even depressed. We had no idea that this person was even close to thinking about taking their own life. We didn't see any signs. Sometimes that is the case where it's such an internal thing and we can keep the facade up that nobody sees it coming, which is okay. We get to do this life however we want.

Amanda:

She said that she needed more time in the classroom.

Rebecca:

She said from the other side.

Amanda:

Yeah, she explained to me that she was taking classes and stuff that she should have took more or learned more before she came back. And she was too. How did she say it? She was too eager, like you know. She came back too early, I guess is what into a body, into experience, too early and without, like she just wasn't ready. I guess is what I understood about the conversation.

Rebecca:

And you know, I've heard it said too that, since we focus a fraction of our attention through this physical body, the smaller percentage.

Rebecca:

The bigger percentage of us/the soul is not physically focused. And I've heard it said through the years that if and this was especially in Michael Newton's work when he did the between life research, some of them were saying I didn't focus a big enough percentage of my energy into that difficult life that I chose. In other words, maybe and these are just numbers I'm making up, but let's say you focus 21% of your energy through a body, but this life's going to be a pretty rocky one and maybe 25 would have got you through. It Makes sense because we do have that inner being. We have the rest of us that's not physically focused, which is still the whole we're not separated from. So in a sense, it's sort of like if I'm having this conversation with you, Amanda, and I hear something in my yard, I can still be here and have this conversation with you, but part of me is paying attention to what's going on out there, in case it's something that I need to take care of, right? So if I give it just a teeny bit of attention, I could miss some things. But if I keep talking to you and I give it just a little bit more attention, I get more data, I get more clarity on what's happening there. So we know what it's like to multitask. And that would be similar, I guess, to how this is with a soul. You have a percentage of you very intently focused through this human body into this life experience and in this case, in our case, the percentage that's here in the body that we know is us right now is calling the shots. That's why, as much as her, for example, her inner being, I'm sure, was giving her plenty of guidance that said "you just don't have to bail, you can do this, I've got your back, you know all of that stuff, I've got your back, you know all of that stuff. I'm sure guidance was streaming from that rest of her that would have preferred her as a whole would have preferred to just keep on, keeping on. But because we are actually calling the shots and we can tune that out and we do it without knowing that we're doing it, oftentimes then we just make that decision all by ourselves and so we make a decision that maybe isn't the best for us. But here we are right. We knew that before we came in.

Rebecca:

It's sort of like the maze analogy that I've used before. You know, here we are in this big living, breathing, ever-changing maze and everybody else is in this maze and we're all intertwining in this huge living maze and we have eyes in the sky that are guiding us, stream of well-being, a stream of guidance to every single one of us from our inner self and from others that is giving us a heads up about some things or just simply encouraging us. We can hear it as kids, we hear it very easily. We sense it, we just follow it. We don't know. We're like birds and squirrels, we don't know, we just follow it. We don't call it guidance. You don't hear kids say well, I heard my inner being say that it would be good for me to go and play with this kid right now. They just go and play with the kid because it lights up, it feels like a good idea.

Rebecca:

So the more we "get in this maze, I think the more conditioned we get and the more you know things just get kicked up for us. We lose a lot of that connection. It's still there, but we're so focused and so distracted with what's outside of us here that we don't really hear or sense what's inside of us, which is that guidance, that's where it's at. What's inside of us, which is that guidance, that's where it's at All of life is guiding us, but the best, the most direct, I think, is coming from within us. So if we're just so crazy distracted outside of us all the time, what are we missing? Right, we're missing that voice that's saying, no, really you can, you can do this. Right, go talk.

Rebecca:

Missing that voice that's saying, no, really, you can do this. Go talk to that person. Or go take a nap. Or look in your wallet right now. There's something in there that will remind you of something that will give you some kind of hope or something else to hold on to, or a new idea about something. But, like I said, it's our option here. We're free to tune that out or to let it in. So hopefully, people listening to this will relate in that way to understand it doesn't have to go to extremes here. You asked if it's ever written in a life plan, suicide. I don't believe it's written in a life plan, but I think us knowing that it could be a potential would be in there.

Rebecca:

I don't think we decide to do that before we come in, but we know that that could come up. Yeah, it could come up. This would be a rocky one that could happen.

Amanda:

And the other question I had was people that do end their own life, do they tend to come back into the physical quicker?

Rebecca:

I believe that varies. In the experiences that I've come across, I think they may come back and I've heard often where they will, because they just want to, you know, get back at it. While it's still fresh, but I think it would just depend If you need a little more time, you need a little more adjusting or whatever before you come back in. I think it's very individual to each soul and there's a lot of freedom in that. Everything that I've gathered over the years would tell me that it would be highly unlikely for the soul not to come back in. We expand in ways that we don't get otherwise. This is experiential learning, this is experiential expansion. You know yourself when you learned how to drive. Nobody said watch this video and we'll show you everything about driving and then you'll be a good driver. Here's your license. Never. We have to get in the vehicle. We have to experience it for ourselves. We have to make some mistakes with it.

Amanda:

Practice.

Rebecca:

We get better and better and better at it. And then we have the knowledge, we have the experience because we lived it. You know we actually did that tactile thing of touching the car, maneuvering it.

Rebecca:

So, and you asked too about you being Catholic. You know just the over the years, Ii's just amazing. You know the BS basically.

Amanda:

Yes.

Rebecca:

That has come out of a lot of religions, and I'm not against religion. I think they have so much wonderfulness to them. But people are people and have gotten caught up in a lot of fear and control and doubt and misunderstanding and all kinds of stuff, just trying to survive, just trying to make it through. And so there's. .. You know, what do you do? When your church says to you this is the truth, you think, well, you're the church, you've been around for a while, you seem to be closer to God. You should know. So, okay, I'm in.

Rebecca:

But, from an early age I just couldn't go in. I loved the whole thing and I went to different churches with different friends because we're from Pittsburgh. Every religion pretty much is here. You can experience all kinds of different churches just in your own hometown, which is wonderful. But it's just kind of silly that they're saying this at that church but they're saying different things at the other church.

Rebecca:

And then I hear about these other churches and it just made me start to question, like, do we do they really have it right? I think the basis is good. But anytime I heard things like if you do this, you're going to this really, really bad place that you will have no control about, that just did not sit with me. It didn't feel true at all. And anytime I heard, if you do something like take your own life, you're in big trouble. I couldn't go there either because I thought, you know, what feels true to me is that there's an ever-present, ever-loving intelligence, that feels right to me, that feels true. And if that is the case, how would that intelligence that loves us unconditionally do that or sign us up for that? It's funny how fear and I get it, maybe it was just easier over the years to guilt people or to fear people into behaving the way other people thought they should. Maybe they even felt that it was

Rebecca:

You know, if you take your own life, you're in all this trouble and it's just going to be terrible, maybe that will make people not take their own life. But that didn't work, did it? Nope, just didn't work, because when you get to that point, nothing else matters, not what you've been taught I've even wondered about. You know how people are. What do you think when you know you're going to die and you know you have done some things? Because we're human, we all have, like I said, we've all hurt people, we've, all done some things that we could say,

Rebecca:

Well, if there's a God that's judgmental, I'm in trouble for at least one thing. So how does it feel when you're ready to make that transition and now the shit just got real. You're going to meet your makers, they say, and be judged. That must be horrifying. But I believe, once the transition happens, that all goes away, because that is not a thing at all. So how refreshing that must be

Rebecca:

once the transition happens, to go, oh gosh, it wasn't even all that Like. I'm not in any trouble. There's no such thing as being in trouble. There is being accountable. So it's funny how we've just put these fears and conditionings. I don't believe at all that free will means free will, except for... Free will is free will. So we do get to choose. So it's nice to get away from those thoughts that are so damning and so heavy about death or taking one's own life. We are getting better at it though.

Rebecca:

I think this whole shift that we're in right now, this whole change, .. maybe I'll do an episode about it pretty soon. I've just discovered a new podcast that I think I'll talk about soon. That is so interesting about what some nonverbal people are up to. That just puts another layer on why everything is just coming out right now. Why are so many things being talked about and recognized and realized, and even so much as to us being able to openly talk about the things we don't agree with in religion? That wasn't something you could do a while back and put out on a podcast anyway, right, so it's nice that we can do this. So any other questions about that? Did I cover it for you?

Amanda:

You absolutely did. Thank you so much.

Rebecca:

Oh, you're welcome and you know, kudos to you for, you know, doing such a great job communicating with the other side and letting it be just a free, flowing conversation, without putting any of your own opinions in there or your own. This is what I think she's saying, or this is what she should be saying. You just literally let her communicate and it's something that you know, it's. It's. It's sort of easy to get it off track because we want to be accurate, we want to, without realizing it, put our interpretation on it. When, if we just repeat, just be a parrot, you know, and repeat what we're feeling or sensing or hearing, it stays. It stays accurate, then absolutely.

Amanda:

I feel like she was very... what's the word? Demanding or like she wanted me to to feel it. And she just was persistent that I say it because I was like I'm not gonna say this, and she's like, just say it and I said it. I was like I feel like my head's everywhere, you know, and it just came out like that. So I'm learning from you. I've tried to just try to say exactly what it is, because it doesn't have to mean anything to you. It's not for you, it's for the person you're communicating with.

Rebecca:

That's true.

Amanda:

And 10 times out of 10, since I've done it and let it go, it's meant something to that person. You know, so yeah, you go with it. You can't argue with that.

Rebecca:

I think it just works out so much better, because who are we to say what this should be or how it should be said, or delivered, or whatever? It's just makes sense to me that if we translate, it's just like if we're translating from one language to another. You just literally translate, you just say what they said in the English words, and so this is very similar, even with the emotion that you get with it or any feelings or smells, like you said, or other sensations. Keep it exactly the way you're getting it. Exactly the way you're getting it, because they know very well how to make it perfect, so why would we change it? So, in any event, I hope we've helped at least a few people with a few of the things that we've talked about here as far as taking one's own life and even communicating with the other side.

Amanda:

Absolutely.

Rebecca:

So thank you, Amanda, for being here and for bringing your questions. I appreciate it.

Amanda:

Absolutely. Thank you for having me.

Rebecca:

All right, and to all of you out there, there is more to come. I have a project that I've been working on for months and I'm getting close to completion on it. If there is such a thing lol, so I'll be giving you information on that and maybe I will do an episode soon on the non-communicative individuals. I'll get into it another episode, but I think it's just so interesting for where we're at today. So until then, I wish you all the best. You can find me at MysticalTruths. com.